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In addition to the subject
of Hell I'm also going to be talking about what happens when
one dies; moreover, I want to discuss the traditions of some people
who either died or were "translated" into Heaven before Jesus
Christ's resurrection and ascension into Heaven. As with all of my
studies, I want to remind everyone that I could be wrong in my
assumptions; therefore, if you can prove "in writing" where I'm in error, I'll
post them to this study (I can remove your name if you prefer to remain
anonymous) and then I'll make the corrections and place them in this study. As
an old mortgage "broker", I would take the best interest
rates and or deals from various banks and put them together into one
package and offer them to my clients, I'm doing the same thing in this
study. I.e., I'm
taking many sources of information from many authors and combining them
into one study; thus, I'm not taking credit for all of this work.
Both Peter and Jesus are saying when you die
you sleep:
Since this topic of death is a
"foundational" question/truth, let me begin this study
with a few key verses plainly explaining what in fact happens when you
die:
Acts 2:29:
“Brothers, I can tell you
confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his
tomb is here to this day.
30:
But he was a prophet and knew that God had
promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his
throne.
31Seeing
what was ahead, he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ
that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay.
32:
God has raised this Jesus to life, and we
are all witnesses of the fact.
33:
Exalted to the right hand of God, he has
received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out
what you now see and hear.
34:
For David did not ascend to heaven,
and yet he said,
“‘The Lord
said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand
35:
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”’
Wow, King David is still
buried and he did not ascend into Heaven?? Yes, this what the
Apostle Peter said, and Luke wrote it down in the book of Acts of the
Apostals. Let's read more what
Peter said about King David's death: Acts 13:36:
For when David had served God’s purpose in his own
generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers
and his body decayed.
37: But
the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay.
So we can read that Peter
calls "sleeping" death; Jesus also calls "sleeping" death - John 11:11:
After He had said this, He went on
to tell them, our friend Lazarus has fallen
asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.
12: His
disciples replied, Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.
13:Jesus
had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant
natural sleep.
14: So
then He told them plainly,
“Lazarus is dead,
15:
and for your sake I am glad I was not
there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”
The Apostle Paul devotes a whole chapter to
asserting that the dead will rise. He makes a special point of arguing if
Christ did not rise from the dead, then no one else can either. In that case,
"they also which are fallen asleep in Christ have perished" (1
Cor. 15:18). Note the implication here: if in this case even the
believers in Christ have "perished", how much more those who have not believed!
But there is no doubt about it, says Paul: Christ did rise from the dead (see
his impressive list of actual witnesses in verses 3-8 of this 15th chapter); and so
Christ has "become the first-fruits of them
that are asleep" (v. 20). Twice within three verses Paul has
described the dead as "asleep". Such is his agreement with Daniel
i.e., "And
many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to
everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt"
(Dan. 12: 2).
So right from the beginning we read that
NOBODY before Jesus Christ, who has died, has entered into heaven; this also
includes the OT,
i.e., no one in the OT (who physically died) entered Heaven or Paradise before Jesus Christ
(more on this topic later in this study.)
In the remainder of this chapter Paul declares that for the faithful dead there
is to be, after their resurrection, a change of nature: "Flesh
and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God." Our present nature
is mortal and corruptible; but when the dead are raised, they are to be
"changed":
for "this
corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on
immortality". This is the why
"death is swallowed up in victory."
The clearest of all
utterances of Jesus on this subject is in John 11 where the
death and resurrection of Lazarus
is recorded. Lazarus was dead -- "asleep", Jesus said but he would go and awaken
him out of his sleep. How absurd would such language be from any one other than
Jesus. He assures Martha that her brother shall rise again. This was already
Martha's hope, but she knew her hope would not be realized until " the last
day", in the day when Israel's Messiah should be revealed and the dead would be
raised:
21 Then
said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my
brother had not died.
22 But
I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God
will give it thee.
23 Jesus
saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha
saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the
resurrection at the last day.Martha, Mary and Lazarus (also named Simon the
Leper) were all disciples of Jesus and Martha remembered exactly what Jesus
taught about the resurrection of the dead, i.e., on the "last day" or when Jesus
comes back again AFTER He first dies then goes into heaven. Martha knew that her
brother was dead (asleep) in the grave. Jesus thereupon affirmed: "I am
the resurrection, and the life, he that believeth in me, though he were dead,
yet shall he live and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die"
(verses 25, 26). This statement leaves no room for doubt or misunderstanding. He
was "the Resurrection" - and this He demonstrated by raising Lazarus
immediately. What He did to Lazarus then, He will do for all who believe in Him
-- He will raise them up from death" at the last day". He is the "Life", and
this will be shown in the day of His return when He gives His resurrected people
eternal life. If we would focus on the teaching of Jesus on the question of a
future life it would not be possible to do so more clearly than in the words of
Jesus in his prayer on the eve of his death: "Thou hast given
Him power over all
flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as Thou hast given Him" (John
17:2).
Many ask me why it is so
important to understand this basic concept of when we die we sleep and
do not go directly into the presence of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ;
here are 4 macro reasons:
Firstly: The
Christian’s hope should not be death, but the appearing of Jesus
Christ; i.e., when He appears, each Christian who is still alive will
exchange his mortal body for a glorious immortal body, and each
believer who has died will be raised to glorious and everlasting
life. How sad it is to teach God’s people that there is hope
of a Christian in his own death, and how opposed to God’s
perspective that death is an “enemy,” as 1 Corinthians 15:26 clearly
states:
“The
last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.”
Biblically, death is a thief, not a benefactor. Death takes away
life; it does not give a greater life.
Please
recall Satan’s first recorded utterance in Scripture where he
challenged God’s Word; Satan said,
“Did
God really say, You must not eat from any tree in the
garden?’” (Gen. 3:1, NIV).
This deceptive misquote of God’s revealed Word led to his second
utterance, “Ye shall
not surely die” (Gen. 3:4),
which was just the opposite of what God had said to Adam.
Genesis
2:16
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the
garden thou mayest freely eat: (17)
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not
eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
surely die.
God said, “Thou shalt surely die.” Satan said, “Ye shall not surely
die”; scripture makes clear who was telling the truth.
Romans
5:12
Wherefore, as by one man
[Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so
death
passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.
So right off the bat think of how
many religions around the world where Satan has deceived them into
thinking when they die they go into a Paradise (e.g., the Muslims),
or they go into an animal, e.g., the Hindus and etc. and etc... even
the Hebrew Sadducees thought they would go to Abraham's bosom when
they died (more on this later.)
A
second consequence of believing the doctrine that the dead are alive
is one that has drastic implications for biblical integrity and
harmony. Believing that all the dead are conscious in heaven or hell
reduces the great truth of resurrection to virtual insignificance.
Death must be true death if resurrection is to be meaningful. If
death involves only the body, with the soul and or consciousness
living on, then resurrection has lost at least half its
significance.
If all
believers have gone into the presence of God at their deaths, the
monumental importance of Jesus Christ’s resurrection is negated. If
Abraham, David,
Job and others were already in
heaven as disembodied souls or spirits, enjoying the presence of God
in “eternity,” then our enemy, death, had already been vanquished
before Christ’s resurrection, and eternal life was available without
Christ. In fact, if it were true, as many teach, that Enoch, Elijah
and
Moses went to heaven bodily, then
Jesus is not even the only human in heaven with a body. Such
teaching contradicts the Word of God, confuses sincere Christians
and dilutes their joy of hope. It also leads to a question posed by
Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther and others during the course of Christian
history. If disembodied souls are able to live and enjoy the
presence of God in heaven for eternity, then what is the need for a
resurrection?
William
Tyndale (1492-1536), the heroic Reformation figure chiefly
responsible for translating the Bible into English, wrote the
following to combat the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church:
"And you in putting them [the souls of the dead] in heaven, hell
and purgatory, destroy the arguments wherewith Christ and Paul
prove the resurrection ... the true faith putteth the
resurrection which we are warned to look for every hour. The
heathen philosophers, denying that, did put that the souls did
ever live. And the Pope joineth this spiritual doctrine of the
philosophers together, things so contrary that they cannot
agree."
If a
body is not required for life in the “hereafter,” then God is going
to a lot of trouble for no apparent reason by “reuniting” everyone
with his body. And the physical death and resurrection of Jesus
Christ, serving only to allow the disembodied soul or spirit to be
united with a body that it obviously can do without, seems to be of
little significance. The teaching that the soul lives on after death
destroys the uniqueness of Christian doctrine, that is, that Jesus
Christ’s bodily resurrection is prerequisite to anyone being given
everlasting life. With so much biblical emphasis on the resurrection
of Jesus Christ, any doctrine undermining it is highly suspect.
A third
consequence of believing the doctrine that souls live on after the
body dies is that it plays into the hands of those who promote the
practice of communicating with the dead. Today many people, both
Christian and non-Christian, attempt to communicate with the spirits
of the dead, often in séances or via “channeling.” Such practices
are similar to ancestor worship, historically a practice of most
non-Christian religions. Pagans believe that the spirits of departed
ancestors intervene in their lives, both for good and evil. Thus, as
godlike beings, they must be worshiped and entreated. Superstition
and fear of the unknown are always hallmarks of such false doctrine.
In fact many Catholics and Muslims believe that Mary from time to
time appears to them and gives them special messages from God. If
there really are “departed souls” or “spirits” that are conscious
and have knowledge of eternity or other matters of interest to those
of us still earthbound, why not communicate with them? Because they
are not there to answer. What will answer are evil spirits (fallen
angels currently under Satan’s dominion) impersonating the dead. In
the Old Testament, however, God expressly forbade communication with
such “familiar spirits.” For example:
Leviticus 19:31
Regard not them that have familiar
spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them:
I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 20:6
And the soul that turneth after such
as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring
after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and
will cut him off from among his people.
Deuteronomy 18:10 and 11 (10): There shall not be
found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter
to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an
observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
(11): Or a charmer, or
a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a
necromancer.
2
Kings 23:24
Moreover the workers with familiar
spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and
all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah
and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform
the words of the law which were written in the book that
Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.
They are called “familiar spirits” because these evil spirits
are familiar with people who have died and can even reproduce
their likenesses and personalities as if they were still alive
in the realm of the “hereafter.”
The judgment of God against Saul, Israel’s first king,
that led to his death was in part caused by his attempt to
divine the Lord’s will through a familiar spirit impersonating
Samuel (1 Sam. 28:7-9;
8 :
So Saul disguised himself, putting on other clothes, and at
night he and two men went to the woman. “Consult a spirit for
me,” he said, “and bring up for me the one I name.”
9:
But the woman said to him, “Surely you know what Saul has done.
He has cut off the mediums and spiritists from the land. Why
have you set a trap for my life to bring about my death?”
10:
Saul swore to her by the Lord,
“As surely as the Lord lives,
you will not be punished for this.”
11:Then
the woman asked, “Whom shall I bring up for you?"
Bring up Samuel,” he said.
12:
When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out at the top of her voice
and said to Saul, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!”
13:
The king said to her, “Don’t be afraid. What do you see?”
The woman said, “I see a spirit
coming up out of the ground.”
14:
“What does
he look like?” he asked.
“An old man wearing a
robe is coming up,” she said. Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and
he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the
ground. We
can clearly read that this women was terrified because she had
only been tricking the people into believing that she could
bring back their loved ones who would communicate through her
thus making a living, however here she really brings back a
demon impersonating Samuel.
1 Chron. 10:13,14
Saul
died because he was unfaithful to the Lord; he did not keep the word of the
Lord and even consulted a
medium for guidance,
14:
and did not
inquire of the Lord. So the
Lord put him to death and
turned the kingdom over to David son of Jesse.
It is appalling that the orthodox
Christian position cites this record as evidence that the dead
can appear and communicate to the living.
Sometimes a familiar spirit will appear to a person who
is not actively seeking to contact the dead. Although such
experiences are very convincing to those who see what appears to
be a dead friend or relative, God's Word exposes this
counterfeit as another satanic attempt to convince people that
the dead are actually still alive. Scripture makes it plain that
contacting the dead is a sin forbidden by God. Surely those
supposedly living in heaven with God would not sin by initiating
or participating in contact with the living. There is nothing in
the New Testament that changes God’s Old Testament prohibition
against attempting to communicate with the dead.
This is what Mathew Henry -
1662 – 1714
- (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Henry)
says about "the Witch of Endor":
"Here is a
seeming defector chasm in the story. Saul said, Bring me up Samuel, and
the very next words are, When the woman saw Samuel, (v. 12), whereas one
would have expected to be told how she performed the operation, what
spells and charms she used, or that some little intimation would be
given of what she said or did; but the profound silence of the scripture
concerning it forbids our coveting to know the depths of Satan (Rev.
2:24) or to have our curiosity gratified with an account of the
mysteries of iniquity. It has been said of the books of some of the
popish confessors that, by their descriptions of sin, they
have taught men to commit it; but the scripture conceals sinful art,
that we may be simple concerning evil, Rom. 16:19. 4. The witch, upon
sight of the apparition, was aware that her client was Saul, her
familiar spirit, it is likely, informing her of it
(v.
12): "Why hast thou deceived me with a disguise; for thou art Saul, the
very man that I am afraid of above any man?"
Thus she gave Saul to understand the power of her art, in that she could
discover him through his disguise; and yet she feared lest, hereafter,
at least, he should take advantage against her for what she was now
doing. Had she believed that it was really Samuel whom she saw, she
would have had more reason to be afraid of him, who was a good prophet,
than of Saul, who was a wicked king. But the wrath of earthly princes is
feared by most more than the wrath of the King of kings. Saul
(who, we may suppose, was kept at a distance in the next room) bade her
not to be afraid of him, but go on with the operation, and enquired what
she saw? v. 13. O, says the woman,
I saw gods (that is, a spirit)
ascending out of the earth;
they called angels gods, because spiritual beings. Poor gods that ascend
out of the earth! But she speaks the language of the heathen, who had
their infernal deities and had them in veneration. If Saul had thought
it necessary to his conversation with Samuel that the body of Samuel
should be called out of the grave, he would have taken the witch with
him to Ramah, where his sepulchre was; but the design was wholly upon
his soul, which yet, if it became visible, was expected to appear in the
usual resemblance of the body; and God permitted the devil, to answer
the design, to put on Samuel's shape, that those who would not
receive the love of the truth might be given up to strong delusions
and believe a lie. That it could not be the soul of Samuel
himself they might easily apprehend when it ascended out of the earth,
for the spirit of a man,
much more of a good man, goes upward,
Eccl. 3:21. But, if people will be deceived, it is just with God to say,
"Let them be deceived." That the devil, by the divine permission,
should be able to personate Samuel is not strange, since he can
transform himself into an angel of light! nor is it strange that he
should be permitted to do it upon this occasion, that Saul might be
driven to despair, by enquiring of the devil, since he would not, in a
right manner, enquire of the Lord, by which he might have had comfort.
Saul, being told of gods ascending, was eager to know what was the form
of this deity, and in what shape he appeared, so far was he from
conceiving any horror at it, his heart being wretchedly hardened by the
deceitfulness of sin. Saul, it seems, was not permitted to see any
manner of similitude himself, but he must take the woman's word for it,
that she saw an old man covered with a mantle, or robe, the habit of a
judge, which Samuel had sometimes worn, and some think it was for the
sake of that, and the majesty of its aspect, that she called this
apparition Elohim, a god or gods; for so magistrates are styled, Ps.
82:1. 6. Saul, perceiving, by the woman's description, that it was
Samuel, stooped with his face to the ground, either, as it is generally
taken, in reverence to Samuel, though he saw him not, or perhaps to
listen to that soft and muttering voice which he now expected to hear (for
those that had familiar spirits peeped and muttered,
Isa. 8:19); and it should seem Saul bowed himself (probably by the
witch's direction) that he might hear what was whispered and listen
carefully to it; for the voice of one that has a familiar spirit is said
to come out of the ground, and whisper out of the dust, Isa. 29:4. He
would stoop to that who would not stoop to the word of God." -
I'll be adding more insight into this story, i.e., the Witch of Endor"
near the bottom of this study.
A
fourth consequence of believing the doctrine of immediate entrance
into heaven at death, and the corollary teaching that death is God’s
will, is that it may subtly undermine a Christian’s will to live by
causing him to accept death as a “friend.” But God’s Word is clear:
1 Corinthians 15:26
The last
enemy that shall be
destroyed is death.
If a
person is persuaded that death is a “friend” that will introduce him
to the glories of eternity, he may adopt a cavalier attitude toward
his own death. Satan can then wield the power of death more easily,
manipulating the untimely death of his victims by fatal disease,
murder, suicide or accident. Why should a Christian aggressively
cling to life on earth and endeavor to live it to the fullest when a
much brighter and higher existence awaits him with God “on the other
side”? Does this teaching motivate a Christian to behave in a manner
that will cause him to prolong, preserve and enjoy his earthly
existence and service to God? To the contrary, one’s belief in an
immediate afterlife might even cause him to hasten his own death. In
fact, history contains a great many records of Christians who have
committed suicide so that they could “be with Jesus.” Tragically,
they have often taken others with them to the grave by murdering
them first. One effect of this false doctrine may possibly be seen
in the context of a serious illness. It is generally understood that
an individual with a strong will to live is more likely to survive a
life-threatening illness. How ironic that Christian believers who
have access to God’s miraculous, supernatural power for deliverance
often negate it by a truncated will to live, based on their
misunderstanding of the true nature of death. Unbelievers who think
that this life is all there is can too often muster more of the
innate and God-given instinct for survival than does a child of God.
Does it glorify God that His people should have less desire than
unbelievers to live as long as they can on earth? Does this help win
the lost and persuade them of the benefits of following the way of
Jesus Christ?
In the
same vein, many Christians are very fatalistic about the moment of
their deaths. Perhaps to deal with the fear of death, they assume
the Lord already has the day picked. When their “number is up,” they
will die, regardless of their behavior, thoughts or even prayers.
They think that
God alone determines the day of their death
when He is ready.
There is, however, no biblical justification for the idea that the
day of one’s death is “set in stone.” Rather, the Bible is replete
with examples of men and women shortening or prolonging their lives
by the way they lived— for example, Saul (1 Chron. 10:13) and
Hezekiah (2 Kings 20:1-5).
Although believing that God determines the day of one’s death may
seem comforting to a misguided believer in, say, an airplane
bouncing through turbulence, it actually may work against him. In a
critical situation,
intense prayer and supplication
would be much more beneficial than passively waiting to see what
God’s will is. It is obvious that our own choices go a long way
toward determining what kind of life we live and for how long.
Thinking fatalistically, one is probably less likely to do those
things that make for a long and healthy life. If it were true that
it is God who determines one’s appointed time to die, then death
would be a friend, and God would be its cause. Neither is true.
God’s will for man is a long, healthy and prosperous life as a
testimony to His love and goodness (e.g., Prov. 4:10; 9:11; Eph.
6:3). Jesus said that he always did the Father’s will (John 4:34;
5:30; 6:38; 17:4), and he
healed all who came to him in
faith (Matt. 4:23; 8:16; 9:35; Luke
9:11). Of
course, most Christians who teach that God kills His people seldom
say it that way. They usually say of a Christian who has died, that
God “called him home.” What an incredible euphemism! Think about it,
“home?” What visions the word carries with it: a hot meal, a warm
bed, a loving family. But what are people really saying about a
saint who has died, when they sweetly say that God “called him
home”? They’re saying that God, who is love, light and goodness, ran
him down with a bus, ate out his insides with cancer or had him
beaten to death in an alley; repulsive? Although Jack Sharkey,
former world heavyweight boxing champion, who was hardly known as a
spokesman for fundamental Christian orthodoxy, said in 1978
upon hearing of the death of his friend, boxer Gene Tunney, is
representative of its confusion. Sharkey said that Tunney’s death
“makes me think it’s too bad, we all get along and the good Lord
takes us.” But how can the
good Lord do bad things? The Word of God clearly states that God is
“good” (Mark 10:18) and that death is an “enemy” to His people (1 Cor. 15:26). God tells us also that it is the Devil who holds the
power of death (Heb. 2:14) and the Devil was a “murderer from
the beginning” (John 8:44). It should be noted here that although
death is of the Devil, this does not mean that a Christian who dies
is “bad” or “out of fellowship” or is “possessed.” Because of the fall
of Adam, physical death is the inevitable end of life for each
person, unless he is still alive when Christ again appears. If the
Church fails to change its wholly untenable biblical position that
the “dead” are actually “alive,” it will unwittingly continue to
play into the hands of spiritualists, adherents of Eastern Mysticism
and the proponents of the rapidly growing New Age Movement, who deny
both the significance of Christ’s resurrection and the unique
opportunity for everlasting life through faith in his name. It will
also continue to offer people a weak and false hope based on
paganism, rather than the comforting and satisfying
truth of God’s Word.
"Is there a literal Hell where one is tormented for ever":
What is Hell?
This will be a study of
Hell and what happens after someone dies. I will begin with Genesis 3:
[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall
not surely die: [5] For God doth know that in the
day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods,
knowing good and evil; this was the 2nd lie of the Devil. Let's now look at what
JC and God said about this lie a few verses later -
22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to
know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the
tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
BTW, did you know Skull and Bones (Harvard University)
uses "322" {Gen 3:22} below their logo (i.e., the scull and cross bones.) So we can read
that God did not allow man to live forever as Adam and Eve subsequently died as
have all of us over these 6,000 years; the only exceptions would be Enoch and
Elijah. everyone is else died.
1Cr 15:22 |
For as in Adam all die , even so in Christ shall all be made alive . |
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Hbr 9:27 |
And as it is appointed unto men once to die , but after this the judgment : |
My first question in this
study is: Would God allow a person to burn in torment from the time they died
until the time they were judged; moreover, after this "final Judgment" would Jesus Christ
then cast them [again] into the unquenchable fire, i.e., the 2nd death for more
torture?
Here is an example:
- Let's assume
it is the year 500 BC and a person named Tom (who did not love and follow God's commandments)
died and went into this type of hell where he began to be tortured by fire.
- Now let's assume Tom's great, great, great grandson died (Tom Jr.) in 1 AD
or 501 years after old great grandfather Tom had already been burning (Tom Jr.
was also a sinner) and now Tom Jr. begins to burn slowly in hell.)
- Now let's assume it is the year 2015 AD and Tom
Jr.' great, great, grandson Tom the 5th was still living and he too was not
following God's commands (nor had faith in JC) and it just so happened that JC
came back (i.e., the 2nd Coming) that year; would if be [fair] for a loving God
to allow one person to be tortured for thousands of years, and another for only
hundreds of years, and then allow another to suffer less (or no torture at all
in the case of Tom the 5th) just because they died earlier?
- Many have thought
about this "unfairness" and have come up with several non-Biblical doctrines,
e.g., purgatory, limbo, etc... We'll look into this teaching a little latter.
David spoke of “the sleep of
death” (Psalm 13:3). All throughout the Old Testament,
when kings died, they “slept with their fathers”
(1 Kings 2:10).
After Stephen was martyred, “he fell asleep” (Acts
7:60). Dead Christians “sleep in Jesus” (1 Thess.
4:14). Thus the dead are sleeping in the dust of
the earth. Someday, they will wake up.
Finally, the Christians’
hope is the return of Jesus Christ and the resurrection.
When our Lord returns, “the dead in Christ shall rise…so
shall we ever be with the Lord” (1 Thess. 4:16, 17).
Look closely. Paul said Christians will “be with the
Lord” when He returns. Jesus taught the same thing when
He promised His disciples, “I will come again, and
receive you to Myself” (John 14:3). Again, look closely.
Jesus did not say, “I’ll meet you in Heaven when you
die,” but that He would receive us when He returns.
The thief on the cross
Part I - Luke 23:42,43):
On history’s
darkest day, as the Son of God
hung suspended between heaven
and earth bearing the sins of
the world, a dying criminal
crucified beside Jesus breathed
hopefully, “Lord, remember me
when you come into your kingdom”
(Luke 23:42). The King
responded, “Assuredly, I say to
you, today you will be with Me
in Paradise” (verse 43). Many
interpret Christ’s response as
conclusive evidence that the
dying thief’s soul was instantly
ushered into the presence of
Jesus on that very day. I
disagree. Here’s why:
-
The dying thief pleaded,
“Lord, remember me when you come
into your kingdom.” Thus the
thief hoped to be remembered at
the Second Coming of Jesus
Christ, not before.
-
Jesus Himself did not go to
Paradise that day, but into
Joseph’s tomb. Three days later,
after rising from the dead,
Jesus candidly told Mary, “I
have not yet ascended to My
Father” (John 20:17). Thus our
Lord did not ascend to glory on
the day of His death.
-
Jesus clarified that His
followers will be with Him when
He returns. “I will come again”,
He promised, “and receive you to
Myself” (John 14:3, italics
added). Paul taught the same
thing when he wrote that true
believers will get to “be with
the Lord” when He descends from
heaven and resurrects the dead
(see 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17).
So what did Jesus mean when He
spoke to the dying thief?
Believe it or not, the confusion
stems from one tiny piece of
punctuation called a ‘comma.’
Before we look again at Christ’s
exact words to the thief, let me
clarify that the Bible calls
itself “the Word of God”, not
“the Comma of God”. The fact is
that punctuation and commas were
added to the inspired text many
years after the New Testament
was written. It is the same with
the numbering of verses.
Whatever translation you are
reading from, your Bible says
“43” before Christ’s response
the dying thief. “42” comes
before that, then “41”,
etcetera. Guess what? Luke
didn’t write “41” or “42” or
“43” or “44.” He just wrote one
book of Luke. It wasn’t until
many years later that men
numbered the verses to make it
easier for us to find them. I’m
glad they did. It helps. But
they also added commas where
they assumed they should go. So
let’s remove the comma and look
at what Jesus Christ literally
said to the thief. His exact
words were:
"Assuredly
I
say
to
you
today
you
will
be
with
Me
in
Paradise
(Luke
23:43)".
Now, if
you
place
the
comma
before
the word
“today,”
which is
where
most
Bibles
place
it, then
Jesus
told the
thief,
“today
you will
be with
Me in
Paradise.”
But if
you
place
the
comma
after
the word
“today,”
Christ’s
meaning
is
switched
entirely.
Then
Jesus
would
have
said, “I
say to
you
today,
you will
be with
Me in
Paradise.”
In other
words,
Christ
would be
telling
the
thief,
“I tell
you
today”
(right
then two
thousand
years
ago)
that he
would be
with Him
in the
future
when He
returns.
So which
is it?
Where
should
the
comma
go?
Fortunately,
we don’t
have to
guess.
Other
verses
make
Christ’s
answer
clear.
-
Jesus
didn’t
go to
Paradise
that
day.
-
On
Saturday
(not
Sunday
as
most
teach)
morning
He had
not yet
ascended
to His
Father
(see
John
20:17).
-
Jesus
never
contradicted
Himself.
He
plainly
promised
His
followers,
“I will
come
again
and
receive
you to
Myself”
(John
14:3).
Martin
Luther
once
said,
“Here I
stand.
So help
me God.
Amen.”
This is
where I
stand.
My hope
is the
Second
Coming
of Jesus
Christ.
Luke 16:19-31:
There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Then he cried and said, "Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame." After denying his request, Abraham finally told the rich man, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’
To begin with, I want to make one highly significant mega-point: This is the ONLY place in the entire New Testament that says that a lost soul descends into a fiery hell immediately at death! Such a doctrine is not taught anywhere else – not by Matthew, Mark, John, James, Peter or Paul. Did you get that? Paul wrote most of the New Testament, and he didn’t teach it even once. Let this fact sink into your soul.
Second, Jesus often told “parables” or stories that were symbolic of deeper truths. Although parables contain many practical lessons, not every item should be taken literally. Is this story a parable? We believe so.
Here are 7 reasons why:
- Jesus often began His parables with the phrase, "a certain…" this or that (see Luke 14:16; 15:11; 16:1; 19:11, 12; 20:9, KJV). If you look up these verses in Luke’s gospel, you will discover that they are all parables. Thus it’s logical to assume the Rich Man and Lazarus story is also a parable.
- A man cannot physically enter into "the bosom" or chest of another person as Christ described.
- Can someone literally burning in flames carry on a normal conversation?
- Can those in heaven and hell talk to each other?
- Jesus represented the rich man as being bodily in hell, with eyes, a mouth, a tongue, etc. This is obviously symbolic. If you were to dig up a real rich man's grave, wouldn't his body be there? Of course!
- A real burning man would not request a little water to cool his tongue alone. What about the rest of his body?
- Consciousness at death contradicts the rest of the Bible.
Significantly, Jesus didn’t interpret every parable He told. Yet when His disciples asked Him to interpret another parable about weeds in a field, Jesus plainly explained that hellfire occurs at “the end of this world,” rather than at death (see Matthew 13:36, 40-42, KJV).
Jesus flipped things upside down by describing a saved poor man, and a lost rich man
The context of Christ’s parable shows He was talking directly to wealthy Pharisees who were mocking Him with their tongues (see Luke 16:14). Those Pharisees believed the rich were blessed, while the poor lived under God’s curse. Jesus flipped things upside down by describing a saved poor man, and a lost rich man. The part about the rich man asking for his tongue to be soothed was a direct warning to those Pharisees that their lips were catapulting them toward hell-fire. Finally, at the end of His parable, Jesus declared that even resurrecting Lazarus from the dead wouldn’t convince the doubters.
This leads to the next point: Why did Jesus specify the name Lazarus? Because His parable was also a prophecy. Later Jesus would resurrect a real person named Lazarus, yet this miracle would not convince the Pharisees that He was the Messiah (John 11:1-53). Here’s a solid principle: We should interpret parables in the light of the rest of the Bible, rather than the rest of the Bible in the light of one parable.
Is Luke 16:19-31 really a parable? (part II)
Again, the parable concerns real people, real
local problems and contemporary issues. And, most importantly, the key to the
answer was in the Old Testament.
The Rich Man and Lazarus:
We now come to the last of the parables in this
section of Luke, the one with which we are concerned. One important point: there
is no break between the "You are the ones!" (Luke 16:15) spoken to the Pharisees
and the Lazarus parable. This suggests that the Pharisees were the audience of
this parable as well.
Who are the characters?
The Rich Man = ?
His father = ?
His five brothers = ?
Lazarus= ?
Abraham = ?
It seems easiest to start where there is likely
to be most agreement, that Abraham is the Abraham of Genesis.
Next easiest is Lazarus. There is only one person
of this name found in the Bible, namely Lazarus of Bethany, the brother of Mary
and Martha who was raised from the dead by Jesus in John 11:1-44. Comparing the
parallel accounts of the anointing in Bethany in John 12:3 and Matthew 26:6 we
find that Lazarus’ other name was Simon, and that he had been a leper. The
leprosy must have been healed when Christ raised Lazarus from the dead, but he
was still known as "Simon the Leper".
This explains why the Lazarus in the parable was
"full of sores" (Luke 16:20). The begging had nothing to do with poverty, it was
because he was unclean. According to the Law of Moses, Simon would have been
ceremonially unclean and could not enter his own house in Bethany; "he must live
outside the camp" (Leviticus 13:46).
So we have two men, both Jews, both called
Lazarus, both beggars, both lepers, both of whom died, and both of whom would
not convince people by their resurrection (compare Luke 16:30-31 and John
12:10).
This is too many coincidences for them not to
have been the same person. So:
Abraham= Abraham
Lazarus = Lazarus
This would lead us to expect the Rich Man is also
someone known to the audience of the parable.
Who was the Rich Man?
Reading through the story we can find the
following clues to the identity of the Rich Man:
- he was rich (vs.19)
- dressed in purple and fine linen (vs.19)
- lived in luxury every day (vs.19)
- in his lifetime he received good things
(vs.25)
- he had five brothers (vs.28)
- they lived in his father’s house (vs.27)
- they had Moses and the Prophets (vs.25)
- but they did not listen to them (vs.29)
- they would not be convinced even if someone
were to rise from the dead (vs.31)
It is not obvious to the modern reader who this
Rich Man is. But it should be clear that the picture is much too detailed to
simply be ‘a representative of all rich men’.
But the Pharisees listening would have known
immediately whom Christ was referring to. There was not any chance of their
mistaking it, because only one man in Israel dressed in purple and fine linen. A
man who fitted exactly all the clues which Jesus gave as to the identity of the
Rich Man.
As in Luke’s previous parable of the Dishonest
Steward, the key to the meaning lies in the Old Testament. In Exodus 28 we find
the instructions given to Aaron for making the high priest’s garments; "blue,
purple, and scarlet yarn and fine linen" (note Exodus 28:5-8,15,31,39).
The Pharisees could not fail to understand that the man
dressed in purple and fine linen was the Jewish high priest.
The Name of the Rich Man
The high priest when Jesus spoke this parable was
Caiaphas. We know from the Jewish historian Josephus, who wrote a detailed
account of the period in Antiquities of the Jews, that Caiaphas met all 4 of the
first qualifications of the Rich Man of Luke 16:
1. he was rich (v.19)
2. dressed in purple and fine linen (v.19)
3. lived in luxury every day (v.19)
4. in his lifetime he received good things (v.25)
(see Antiquities, XIII: 10:vi:p.281,
XVIII:1:iv:p.377, also Wars of the Jews 11:8:xiv: p. 478)
His Father’s House
In Luke 3:2 and Acts 4:6 we meet the other high
priest who served with Caiaphas, Annas, who was "father-in-law to Caiaphas"
(John 18:13). Josephus also records that Caiaphas served as high priest 18-35AD
at the time of Jesus’ ministry. Annas had been removed from his office by the
Romans for openly resisting them, but behind the scenes he retained his
authority and position. This is why in John 18:13-24 Jesus is first tried by
Annas, and only afterwards sent to Caiaphas (v.28), but then Caiaphas, not
Annas, sends Jesus to Pilate (v.29).
Five Brothers
In case anyone listening did not understand who
He meant, Christ was even more specific: The "five brothers" Christ mentions are
the five other high priests, who were in fact his five brothers-in-law, the five
sons of Annas. The historian Josephus records:
"Now the report goes, that this elder Annas
proved a most fortunate man; for he had five sons, who had all performed the
office of a high priest to God, and he had himself enjoyed that dignity a long
time formerly, which had never happened to any other of our high priests. . ."
(Antiquities, Book XX, chapter 9, section i, p.423)
The years they served are as follows:
Eleazar 16-17AD
Jonathan 36-37AD
Theophilus 37-41AD
Matthias 41-43AD
Annas the Younger 62AD
As mentioned above, the years 18-35AD between
Eleazar and Jonathan were occupied by Caiaphas. Between 43-62AD the high priests
were taken from other families than of Annas. Finally in 70AD the temple was
destroyed and the high priesthood along with it.
This confirms the list of
coincidences between the Rich Man and Caiaphas:
5. he had five brothers (v.28)
6. they lived in his father’s house (v.27)
7. they had Moses and the Prophets (v.25)
8. but they did not listen to them (v.29)
The final coincidence is confirmed when after the
resurrection of Simon of Bethany, we read that "the chief priests made plans to
kill Lazarus as well, for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to
Jesus and putting their faith in him" (John 12:10)
9. they would not be convinced even if someone
were to rise from the dead (v.31)
John 12:10 also confirms another coincidence
between the Lazarus of the parable and Simon Lazarus of Bethany. The
resurrection of both was rejected by Annas and his five sons.
Summary so far
We have established the identity of all the
characters:
Abraham = Abraham
Lazarus = Simon the Leper of Bethany
The Rich Man = Caiaphas
His father = Annas
His 5 brothers = Eleazar, Jonathan, Theophilus, Matthias, Annas the Younger
But what does the parable mean?
At the Rich Man’s Gate
"At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus,
covered with sores, and longing to eat from the Rich Man’s table. Even the dogs
came and licked his sores." (vs. 20-21)
As we noted in considering the real Lazarus, when
a Jew contracted a disease they became ‘unclean’. They were at most allowed only
into the outer court of the temple. This meant the unclean were no longer
allowed to eat from the sacrifices offered in the inner court. In this way Simon
of Bethany was barred from eating at the table of Caiaphas in Jerusalem.
There is similar language in Matthew 15 when the
Canaanite woman (who was a ‘Gentile dog’ as far as the Pharisees were concerned)
said to Jesus "Even the dogs eat the crumbs which fall from their master’s
table" (Matthew 15:27).
It may be that before he died Simon the Leper
literally did beg outside the temple. But the meaning here is deeper than
begging for food. Jesus is saying that the weak, the unclean, and the poor, were
all denied spiritual food by the ruling caste of high priests.
The Bosom of
Abraham
"The time came when the beggar died, and the
angels carried him to Abraham’s side" (v.22 NIV).
Now this is where the story starts to become
difficult. Nowhere else in the Bible does it say that when men die they go to
Abraham’s side. In older Bibles it reads "bosom of Abraham", meaning the lap of
Abraham.
Today there are a hundred and one different
theories about death. Many people seriously believe when they die they will go
up to the gates of Heaven, to be met by the Apostle Peter. Others believe other
things. But the idea that the dead go to sit 'in the lap' of Abraham is
something that nobody today believes.
But people did believe it in Jesus' day.
Mentions of "the bosom of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob" have been found in burial
papyri (cf. papyrus Preisigke Sb 2034:11). In early Rabbinical legends "the
Bosom of Abraham" was where the righteous went. (cf. Kiddushin 72b, Ekah 1:85).
It is not in the Bible of course, but it was popularly believed.
While the NIV has "to Abraham's side", the
literal AV rendering "to the bosom of Abraham" is better as the 'Bosom of
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob', was a specific concept in contemporary popular
belief.
Another source showing what Jews of Jesus' day
believed is a book called 4 Maccabees, which was probably written by Jews in
Egypt about a generation after Christ. In this work of fiction Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob receive and welcome Jewish martyrs into the world of the dead:
"After our death in this fashion Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob will receive us and all our forefathers will praise us" (4 Maccabees
13:17).
Again, this is not Bible teaching, only popular
superstition.
The Rich Man in Hell
The story becomes even more difficult when we
read the next verse:
"The Rich Man also died and was buried. In Hell
where he was in torment he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus in
his bosom. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send
Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am
in agony in this fire'." (vs. 23-24)
Even with the most fertile imagination it is
difficult to believe that from Hell one can see people in Heaven and talk to
them. But the story gets stranger still:
"But Abraham replied. 'Son remember that in your
life time you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but
now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us
and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to
you cannot, nor can anyone else cross over from there to us". (vs. 25-26)
Nothing else in the Bible prepares us for this
description of Hell. Again the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus turns out to
be unique.
Which Hell?
We need to clarify what the word 'Hell' means
here, as in English Bibles (unlike many Asian Bibles) two words have been
confused into one.
'Hell' in the English Bible can be one of two
words in the original Greek text:
1. Hades, the grave, the pit, the place
where the dead sleep. In the Old Testament known as Sheol (Genesis 37:35, 42:38,
44:29, Job 14:13, Psalm 6:5, 16:10, 139:8, Ecclesiastes 9:10, Matthew 16:18). In
the Bible all people go to Hades to await the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:55,
Revelation 1:8, 20:13). Even Jesus was in Hades for 3 days and 3 nights (Psalm
16:10, Acts 2:27,31).
2. Gehenna, originally the name of the
valley Gehenna on the south side of Jerusalem. In the Old Testament the valley
was known as Ben Hinnom (Jeremiah 7:31). In the New Testament the name is
associated with the fire in which the rejected will be destroyed at the last
judgment (Matthew 5:22,29,30, 18:9, 23:15,33, Mark 9:43,45,47, Luke 12:5, James
3:6)
The problem is that in Luke 16:23 the ‘Hell’
described does not fit either of these Bible definitions. In fact the word is
Hades, but it clearly does not fit with the Hades of "silence" (Psalm 31:17),
where Jesus was laid (Acts 2:25-28 quoting Psalm 16:8-11). There are 9 other
mentions of Hades in the New Testament, 50 in the Old. All these other
references present Hades as the grave. Luke 16:23 is the odd one out.
The source for the unusual Hades in Luke 16:23,
as with the source for the ‘Bosom of Abraham’ itself, lies outside the Bible in
the myths of the 1st Century. Many Jewish myths survive today (e.g.. in the
Apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls, Talmud, etc.). In these works a
variety of fantastic pictures of Hades are given that have no connection with
the Old Testament. One of the closest to the picture given in Luke 16:23-24 is
in a work called The Apocalypse of Zephaniah.
Let's take a few minutes and
go deeper into some of the "words" surrounding death;
Rev
20 - 12]
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were
opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead
were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to
their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and
death
and
hell
(or
sheol,
underworld, grave, hell, pit) delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every
man according to their works. [14] And death and hell were cast into the
lake of fire. This is the
second death.
[15] And whosoever was not found written in
the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
If you click on all the blue
links above and read every verse regarding death, hell, the Lake of Fire and the
Second death not only will you not find anywhere where it says the dead
(you and me) will be tormented with fire but you will actually find several
verses which talk about the deed will not remember anything and will
sleep. Remember only Jesus never saw corruption -
|
Psa 16:10 |
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt
thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption . |
There are three different
Greek words which are translated as “Hell” in our
English New Testaments.
-
Tartarus
-
Gehenna
-
Hades
Tartarus is used only once in the New Testament, in
2 Peter 2:4. "God
spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to
hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of
darkness, to be reserved unto judgment." This verse
says that “the angels that sinned” (which would include
Lucifer) have already been cast down “to hell” by God
Himself yet they aren’t burning now nor are they
suffering somewhere below the earth. Tartarus means
“dark abyss” or “place of restraint.” 2 Peter 2:4
says 4] For if God
spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to
hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be
reserved unto judgment",
this means a future punishment. Moreover, we know that
Satan and his demons are here on earth tormenting us,
Christians and non Christians, but through the Holy
Sprit given by God after Jesus was resurrected,
Christians can over-come and defeat them.
Gehenna this word is derived from the name of the
valley of Hinnom just south of Jerusalem where trash,
filth, and the bodies of dead animals were burned up in
Bible days. Jesus Christ spoke about Gehenna many times
such as in Matthew 5:22, 29 & 30 where He warned about
“the danger of hell [Gehenna] fire” (Matthew 5:22).
Gehenna definitely suggests real flames. But a key
question is: when will this fire burn? In Matthew
13:40-42, in His explanation to His disciples about His
parable concerning plants, reapers and a harvest, Jesus
provided this definite answer:
[40] As therefore the
tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it
be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and
they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that
offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there
shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
When
do these fires burn? JC's answer is, “at the end of this
world” (again see verse 40 above). Peter wrote the same
thing in 2 Peter 3: [7] But the heavens and the
earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in
store, reserved unto fire against the day of
judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Peter is
saying:
- a
real fire is forth coming
- it
will burn “the heavens,” or the atmosphere
- it
will burn “the earth”
- the
fire will blaze on “the day of judgment”
- the
“ungodly” will end up in this fire
Peter
also said in 2 Peter 3 [10] But the day of the
Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which
the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth
also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Peter is saying in the future the sky and the earth will
catch fire and “melt with fervent heat.” The NT is
teaching us there will be a future "Judgment", then a
"Lake of Fire", then a "New Heaven and Earth"; thus so
far, we have yet to find where the dead in Christ will
be tormented "forever" in fire....
“Hades.” This Greek word is also
translated “Hell” in many
English Bibles, such as the King
James Version. In Revelation
6:8, the King James Version
refers to “Death, and Hell
[Hades].” It does this same in
Revelation 20:14. Yet some
English Bibles leave the word
“Hades” itself, such as the New
International Version, which
translates Revelation 6:8 and
20:14 as “Death, and Hades.” Now
here’s a key point: in
Revelation 20:14 “Hades”
(“Hell”) is eventually “cast
into the lake of fire.” Thus
“Hades” itself is not a fiery
place, but is cast
into “the lake of fire.”
Here is Revelation 20:14 in both
the KJV and NIV:
"And death and
hell were cast into the
lake of fire” (Revelation
20:14, King James Version,
italics added), "Then death and
Hades were thrown into
the lake of fire" (Revelation
20:14, New International
Version, italics added)
In
my KJV, there
is a marginal reference beside
the word “Hell” (Hades) listed
in Revelation 20:13 and
[14] it
says “Hell” literally means “the
grave.” Thus Revelation 20:14
could properly be translated,
“death and
the grave were cast into
the lake of fire.”
“Hades”
literally means “the grave.”
Read - 1
Corinthians 15:55,
[55] O death, where is thy
sting? O grave, where
is thy victory?
If you look in any Strong’s
Concordance, you’ll discover
that the original Greek word
here translated “grave” is
“Hades.” By looking at the
context, it’s obvious that
“Hades” means “the grave”
because it is
God’s saints who rise out
of “Hades” when Jesus Christ
returns - read 1 Cor 15:[51]
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We
shall not all sleep, but we
shall all be changed,
[52] In a
moment, in the twinkling of an
eye, at the last trump: for the
trumpet shall sound, and the
dead shall be raised
incorruptible, and we shall be
changed. [53] For this
corruptible must put on
incorruption, and this mortal
must put on immortality.
[54]
So
when this corruptible shall have
put on incorruption, and this
mortal shall have put on
immortality, then shall be
brought to pass the saying that
is written, Death is swallowed
up in victory.
[55] O death,
where is thy sting? O grave,
where is thy victory?
Additional proof that “Hades”
means “the grave” is the fact
that “Hades” was the place Jesus
Christ’s body rested in
immediately after His death. In
Acts 2:[31]
He seeing this before spake of
the resurrection of Christ, that
his soul was not left in hell,
neither his flesh did see
corruption.
Thus Christ’s “body” (NIV) or
“flesh” (KJV) was not allowed to
see “corruption” (KJV) or
“decay” (NIV)
because it remained in the grave
only a short time before He
rose.
To summarize the meaning of the
three Greek words translated
“Hell” in our English Bibles:
-
“Tartarus” means “a place of
darkness or restraint” (2
Peter 2:4). Satan abides
there now.
-
“Hades” means “the grave”
(Acts 2:31; 1 Corinthians
15:55; Revelation 20:14).
Jesus Christ’s body rested
there, and His saints rest
there now awaiting the
resurrection.
-
“Gehenna” means a place of
fire, brimstone, and
punishment (see Matthew
5:22, 29, 30, described in
Matthew 13:40-42, 2 Peter
3:7, 10-12). These flames
are yet future, at the end
of the world.
Let's
continue to my next question:
Why do
folks who believe in a "burning" hell alway use "The Worm that Dieth
Not" trying to prove that the dammed will never die?
Let's go deep into this "worm." Here we will read
where JC mentioned this in the NT then will go to the OT where JC and the
Apostles (including Luke) crossed referenced most everything. Mark 9:
[43] "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better
for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into
the *fire that never shall be quenched:
[44]
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
[45] And if thy foot
offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than
having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be
quenched:
[46] Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Lets now compare JC's statement with
Isaiah 66: [24] And they shall go forth, and look upon the
carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me:
for their worm shall not die, neither shall their
fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto
all flesh". This is exactly what JC said but here Isaiah
is talking about the "carcasses of sinners" that God's
believers in the future will look upon. I.e., at the end
of time, the godly will see dead bodies (period.) In this Isaiah text, the worm
doesn’t die, but the
people are dead. This is biblical imagery. Again,
in Bible days, outside Jerusalem, there was a garbage
dump where the carcasses of dead dogs and criminals
often ended up. Worms continually crawled there within
rotting flesh. Jesus used this imagery, quoting Isaiah,
to illustrate the fearful fate of the lost. But again,
it's dead bodies,
not eternal torment, being described.
* What about
the
fire that never shall be quenched:? Let's now
look at Jeremiah 17:[27]
"But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath
day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the
gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I
kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall
devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be
quenched."
So what do
you do when you find an occasional expression in the
Bible that initially seems to contradict the clearest
Biblical passages on a subject? There is only one safe
course to follow:
Always let the Bible explain its own terms. By
examining the Bible’s own use of a particular
expression, you discover the perfect agreement that
exists throughout the Bible on the subject. Some
people are misled by the expression "unquenchable
fire." This term is used in Matthew 3:12; Mark
9:43-48; and Luke 3:17. Does the fact that the fire is
unquenchable mean that sinners will burn forever? Let’s ask
the Bible to show us an actual example of this kind of
fire. Through Jeremiah, God prophesied that if His
people would not hallow the Sabbath, Jerusalem would be
burned with fire which "shall not be quenched" (Jeremiah
17:27). That prophecy was fulfilled (2 Chronicles
36:19-21; Jeremiah 52:12, 13). But notice that although
fire could not be quenched the fuel was consumed! In Isaiah
we read that the wicked will "burn together, and none
shall quench them" (Isaiah 1:31). Yet the same chapter
explains that they "shall be consumed" (Isaiah 1:28)! Did you
know that the Bible has also recorded for us an example
of a time when "eternal
fire" was used? Jude 7 says that "Sodom and
Gomorrah, and the cities about them...are set forth for
an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
The story is recorded in Genesis 19. According to this
example, how thoroughly does eternal fire burn things?
The answer is found in 2 Peter 2:6, "Turning the cities
of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes...making them an
example unto those that after should live ungodly."
The Bible
indicates that those involved in the final conflict
against God will be tormented day and night "for
ever and ever" (Revelation 14:11; 20:10). How
long, in the Biblical sense of the word, is "for ever
and ever?" Are there any Biblical examples of this
measurement of time?
Here is
one: In Jewish history, all Hebrew servants were
released every seventh year. But if one should choose
not to leave his master, "his master shall bore his ear
through with an awl; and he shall serve him for ever"
(Exodus 21:6). Obviously "for ever" only means "as long
as he lives."
Here is
another example: Hannah dedicated her child Samuel to
the Lord and took him to the house of the Lord that he
might "there abide for ever" (1 Samuel 1:22). She
clarified the meaning of her words in verse 28 by
saying, "as long as he liveth."
The term
"eternal punishing"
is not found in the Bible. However, Jesus did speak of "everlasting
punishment" (Matthew 25:46). Do you know the
difference? What is the punishment for sin? "The wages
of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). Everlasting death. The
Scriptures clearly foretell the fate of the wicked
"whose end is destruction" (Philippians 3:19).
"Everlasting destruction" (2 Thessalonians 1:9). "Thou
hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast put out their name
for ever and ever. O thou enemy, destructions are come
to a perpetual end: and...their memorial is perished
with them" (Psalm 9:5, 6). "This is the second death"
(Revelation 20:14). The Bible is very clear on this
subject. (See Job 8:22; 20:4-9; Psalm 1:6; 21:9; 37:38;
Proverbs 2:22; Isaiah 65:17; Zephaniah 1:18.)
In the Isaiah text, the worm
doesn’t die, but the
people are dead. This is biblical imagery. Again,
in Bible days, outside Jerusalem, there was a garbage
dump where the carcasses of dead dogs and criminals
often ended up. Worms continually crawled there within
rotting flesh. Jesus used this imagery, quoting Isaiah,
to illustrate the fearful fate of the lost. But again,
it's dead bodies,
not eternal torment, being described.
The Lake of Fire (borrowed from
http://bibletruths.150m.com/Wrathpart4.htm ) :
What are the
first impressions we had all our lives on the lake of fire?
Did you ever wonder why brimstone is included in the lake of fire? As if
God’s consuming fire alone is not enough. Brimstone is the Greek word thion
which means in the sense of flashing and it means sulfur. Strong’s Lexicon
says brimstone was used as divine incense; or should I say, sweet savor? It
also says burning brimstone was regarded as having power to purify, and to
ward off disease. Now isn’t that interesting?
Thion is taken
from the word thios which was translated divine and godhead, and the other
Greek word is theos and was translated as God; which means the supreme
divinity. God is not only a consuming fire but He is also brimstone.
The consuming
fire and brimstone is God purifying, refining, and cleansing His people
Israel. The Encyclopedia Britannica says sulfur is often called brimstone
or burning stone, and ignited sulfur is mentioned in the earlier records of
many countries as having been used for religious ceremonies, for purifying
and fumigating buildings, and for bleaching cloth. I find that very
interesting.
Words have meanings and
brimstone is a symbol
and this purifying, fumigating, and bleaching action are things being purified
and being made white. It is called the white throne judgment; not a throne
of darkness. Under the caption: Methods of Production it says; ancient
producers described their method of obtaining sulfur from its ore as
purification by fire. Purification by fire sounds very biblical.
Under Physical Properties: Sulfur is tasteless and odorless; it has no action on
the skin. Sulfur is also a poor conductor of both heat and electricity.
I repeat, words have
meanings, and to symbolically
apply or flash sulfur means there is no physical pain in the lake of fire
because of no action on the skin, and if there is literal heat; sulfur as a poor
conductor for heat would serve no purpose in the lake of fire. Twentieth
Century Dictionary says: sulfur has hundreds of beneficial uses; innumerable
uses not the least of which are purifications and medicines.
So why do we
find sulfur in the lake of fire? I could also ask how can God be a wrathful
God and called a consuming fire, and at the same time; how can God also be
love and a merciful God? I could also ask; why is the second death a
tormenting experience? I am not implying anything and I am not telling you
what to believe; I am only sharing this information for what its worth to
you.
Who Are
the Spirits In Prison?
Let's take a close look
at this passage in 1st Peter and see just what it is really saying.
1 Pet 3:[18]
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, Jesus Christ who was
sinless, died once on the cross for sinners- ... that he might bring
us to God, Through the death of
Jesus, we sinners have been reconciled with God, ... being put to death in
the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: He died the death all we
mortals must die, but He was raised to life by the Holy Spirit.
1 Pet 3:[19]
By which also he went and preached unto the
spirits in prison;
By the same Holy Spirit, He (the Holy Spirit by Noah) preached to those people
who were
prisoners of sin
- as the following passage in Luke also shows-
Luke 4:[18] The Spirit of
the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the
poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the
captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that
are bruised,
Luke 4:[19] To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Jesus in Luke was quoting
this passage in Isaiah: Isa 61:[1]
The spirit of
the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good
tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to
proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are
bound;
Isa 61:[2] To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance
of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
The "captives"
in Luke and Isaiah, and the "prisoners"
in 1st Peter are both referring to then
living
people in bondage to sin - captives and prisoners of Satan surely, but not
disembodied spirits in Hell/hades/limbo. It is the Gospel message that frees you
from that captivity to sin-
John 8:32 And ye shall
know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to
any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever
committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth
ever.
John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Again, this passage in
John shows us to be in bondage to, or
prisoners of sin, yet set free by the Son
of God.
1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in
the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, ...
The Gospel message was
preached to the people (those in bondage to sin) through Noah and the Holy
Spirit while the Ark was being built. Sinners had 120 years of probation
(Gen 6:3), while Noah was building the Ark and during that time Noah preached
the message of God to a lost wicked world, nearly all of whom were prisoners of
sin. So, Jesus had spoken to Noah, telling him to build the Ark, then Noah did
the preaching to the people as he was guided by the Holy Spirit.
... wherein few, that is,
eight souls were saved by water.
2 Pet 2:5 And spared not
the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness,
bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
As a result of Noah's
inspired preaching, eight people were saved, Noah and his family. The rest of
humanity (the antediluvians) perished in the flood.
So properly understood,
this passage of 1 Peter 3:18-20 has absolutely no connection with Jesus after
His death on the cross and does not validate a belief in an intermediate
"prison" or limbo for souls between death and heaven, as some teach today. When
Christ died on the cross, He was buried, and did nothing until His
resurrection. He went nowhere and preached to no one during the time period
between His crucifixion and resurrection. Dead is dead. Read more
here.
Paradise
and the Thief on the Cross - Part II:
Some will look the thief on the cross and assert that "paradise" is not heaven, but this "limbo" or
holding place in hades for the souls who died before Jesus was resurrected. It
is easily proved that "paradise" IS in fact heaven:
Jesus promises the thief
that day that he will be with Him in paradise: Luke 23:43 And Jesus said
unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Note that the tree of
life is also in paradise: Rev 2:7 He that hath an
ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the
paradise of God.
The tree of life is also
placed as being in the New Jerusalem: Rev 22:2 In the midst of
the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life,
which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the
leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
And the New Jerusalem is
described as descending *from heaven* after the millennium: Rev 21:2 And I John saw
the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a
bride adorned for her husband.
Hence the promise made to
the thief on that day was that he would join Christ in the New Jerusalem, in
heaven, for the millennium. It is a promise yet to be fulfilled, which will
happen at the second coming and the resurrection of the righteous dead.
The Catholic teaching
that paradise/limbo was a holding area in "hell" for souls, liberated when Jesus
descended into hell after His death, is unfounded, a false tradition of men, and
based on a complete misconception of the state of the dead. In addition to the
Catechisms (see below), this erroneous teaching can also be found in the
Catechism of the Council of Trent, Article V of the Apostles' Creed
and in the Vatican's new Catechism of the Catholic Church
#631-637.
The world faces a similar
period of probation today, as it did in Noah's day. Soon the Gospel message will
be preached a final time, the last person will accept Jesus Christ into his or
her heart and mind, and the door of probation will then close as it did on the
Ark of Noah. At that point all humanity will have had their fate decided and the
plagues of God will then fall on the wicked of the world, as explained in
Revelation, which will immediately precede the second coming of Jesus. (The
plagues on the wicked are the future counterpart to the flood of Noah.)
LIMBO:
The Apostles' Creed and 1 Peter 3:19-
Did Jesus preach to spirits in Hades?
1Peter 3:19
19]
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;[20] Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God
waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is,
eight souls were saved by water.
[21] The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not
the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience
toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
From the Apostles' creed-
... He suffered under
Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. ...
What? Jesus descended
into Hell after his death? Just what did he do there?
1 Pet 3:18 For Christ
also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring
us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Pet 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God
waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is,
eight souls were saved by water.
There is a popular
interpretation of this passage, in conjunction with the Apostles' Creed, that
Jesus, after His death on the cross, descended into Hades/Hell/prison to preach
to spirits there.
(The Roman Catholics call
this place that Jesus supposedly visited after His death "limbus patrum", or
limbo of the fathers. Here is a link to an article from the
1913 Catholic Encyclopedia
explaining LIMBO
online at New Advent, a Roman Catholic website.)
It is interesting to note
that the source of this fanciful story of Jesus preaching in Hell appears to be
the Roman Catholic Church. Note the following quotes about article 5 of the
Apostles' Creed from Catholic Catechisms:
What meaneth the fifth
Article?
He descended into hell, the third day he
arose again?
We must believe, that
Christ's body lying in the grave, his soul descended into hell: not to suffer
pains, as some heretics do say, but for consolation and comfort of many Fathers
there, and out of that place (called Lymbus
Patrum) he loosed the souls of the blessed Fathers from captivity,
and carried them away with him: the third day he rose again from death to life,
manifestly showing himself to his Disciples, eating with them, and speaking of
the kingdom of God. (Matt. 8, Luke 14, Ephes. 4, 1 Cor. 15, Acts 1.)
Source: A
Catechisme or Christian Doctrine, by Laurence Vaux, B.D.,
reprinted from a 1583 edition by The Chetham Society in 1885, Manchester
England, (updated to modern spelling for this excerpt) pages 13, 14.
The Fifth Article
Q. What is the fifth
article?
A. He descended into hell, the third day he arose again from the dead.
Q. What means, he
descended into Hell?
A. It means, that as soon as Christ was dead, he descended into
Limbo, to free the holy fathers who
were there.
Q. How prove you that?
A. Out of Acts ii. 24, 27.
'Christ being slain, God raised him up loosing the sorrows of hell, as it was
foretold by the prophet,' Psalm
xv. 10. 'Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, nor wilt thou give thy Holy One to
see corruption.'
Q. What other proof have
you?
A. Ephes. iv. 8, 9. 'He
ascending on high, hath led captivity captive; he gave gifts to men; and that he
ascended,' what is it but because he descended into the lower parts of the
earth?
Q. Did he not descend to
purgatory to free such as were there?
A. It is most probable he did according to 1 Pet. iii. 19, 20. 'Christ being
dead, came in spirit; and preached to them also that were in prison, who had
been incredulous in the days of Noah, when the ark was building.'
Source: The
Douay Catechism (An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine) of
1649, by Henry Tuberville, D.D., published by P. J. Kenedy, Excelsior Catholic
Publishing House, 5 Barclay Street, New York, approved and recommended for his
diocese by the Right Rev. Benedict, Bishop of Boston, April 24th, 1833, page 15.
THE FIFTH ARTICLE
'He descended into hell, the
third day He rose again from the dead.'
1. What means, 'He
descended into hell'?
That the soul of Jesus Christ, after His death, descended into 'Limbo'—i.e., to
the place where the souls of the just who died before Christ were detained, and
were waiting for the time of their redemption.
2. Why were souls of
the just detained in Limbo?
Because Heaven was closed through sin, and was first to be opened by Christ
(Hebr. ix. 6-8)
3. Why did Christ
descend into Limbo?
1. To comfort and set free the souls of the just; and
2. To show forth His power and majesty even there in the lower regions (Phil.
ii. 10).
Source: Rev. Joseph
Deharbe's A Complete Catechism of the
Catholic Religion, translated from the German by the Rev. John
Fander, sixth American Edition, published by Schwartz, Kirwin & Fauss, 53 Park
Place, New York, Copyright 1912, 1919, 1924, pages 119, 120.
The Fifth
Article of the Creed
1 Q. What are we
taught in the Fifth Article: He descended into hell; the third day He rose again
from the dead?
A. The Fifth Article of the Creed teaches us that the Soul of Jesus Christ,
on being separated from His Body, descended to the Limbo of the holy Fathers,
and that on the third day it became united once more to His Body, never to be
parted from it again.
2 Q. What is here meant by hell?
A. Hell here means the Limbo of the holy Fathers, that is, the place where
the souls of the just were detained, in expectation of redemption through Jesus
Christ.
3 Q. Why were not the souls of the Holy Fathers admitted into heaven before
the death of Jesus Christ?
A. The souls of the holy Fathers were not admitted into heaven before the
death of Jesus Christ, because heaven was closed by the sin of Adam, and it was
but fitting that Jesus Christ, who reopened it by His death, should be the first
to enter it.
Source:
The
Catechism of Pope St. Pius X.
Q. 66. Is Limbo the same
place as Purgatory?
A. Limbo is not the same place as Purgatory, because the souls in Purgatory
suffer, while those in Limbo do not.
Q. 67. Who were in Limbo when Our Lord descended into it?
A. There were in Limbo when Our Lord descended into it the souls of all those
who died the friends of God, but could not enter heaven till the Ascension of
Our Lord.
Q. 403. Why did Christ
descend into Limbo?
A. Christ descended into Limbo to preach to the souls who were in prison — that
is, to announce to them the joyful tidings of their redemption.
Q. 404. Where was Christ's body while His soul was in Limbo?
A. While Christ's soul was in Limbo His body was in the holy sepulchre.
Source:
The
Baltimore Catechism #3
[On "He descended into
hell " ...]
"Hell:" here does
not mean the place where the damned are, but a place called "Limbo." You know
that when our first parents sinned, Heaven was closed against them and us, and
no human being could be admitted into it till after the death of Our Lord; for
He by His death would redeem us—make amends for our fall and once more open for
us Heaven. Now from the time Adam sinned till the time Christ died is about four
thousand years. During that time there were at least some good men, like
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, and others, in the world, who tried to
serve God as best they could—keeping all the divine laws known to them, and
believing that the Messias would some day come to redeem them. When, therefore,
they died they could not go to Heaven, because it was closed against them. They
could not go to Hell, because they were good men. Neither could they go to
Purgatory, because they would have to suffer there. Where could they go? God in
His goodness provided a place for them—Limbo—where they could stay without
suffering till Our Lord reopened Heaven. Therefore, while Our Lord's body lay in
the sepulchre, His soul went down into Limbo, to tell these good men that Heaven
was now opened for them, and that at His Ascension He would take them there with
Him.
Source: The
Baltimore Catechism #4 on Basic Catholic Prayers, the Apostles'
Creed, by Rev. Thomas L. Kinkead, published by TAN Books and
Publishers, Inc., Rockford, Illinois, Copyright 1891 and 1921 by Benzinger
Brothers and reprinted in 1978, ISBN: 0-89555-340-6, pages 11,12.
Please also read:
Matt 27:52
"the tombs broke open"
Arguments against this teaching
(I just received this email from a loved one and I'll go through each verse and
explain the true meaning shortly):
Some teachings do declare
that Lazarus and The Rich Man is a parable. Either way, below is what the
Bible describes as hell. The Bible gives us three definitions of hell:
-
The Old Testament uses
the Hebrew sheol or sheh-ole’ - meaning hades or world of the
dead (as if a subterranean retreat), includ(ing/sive/sively) its
accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit.
[Check out the
synonyms on subterranean]
-
Deuteronomy 32:22
-
2 Samuel 22:6
-
Job 11:8; 26:6
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Psalm 9:16; 16:10;
18:5; 55:15; 86:13; 116:3; 139:8
-
Proverbs 5:5;
7:27; 9:18; 15:11, 24; 23:14; 27:20
-
Isaiah 5:14; 14:9,
15; 28:15, 18; 57:9
-
Ezekiel 31:16-17;
32:21, 27
-
Amos 9:2
-
Jonah 2:2
-
Habakkuk 2:5
-
gehenna
or gheh’eh-own
– valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge-Hinnon), a valley of
Jerusalem, used (figuratively.) as a name for the place (or state) of
everlasting punishment: - hell.
-
Matthew 5:22,
29-30; 10:28; 18:9; 25:15, 33
-
Mark 9:43, 45, 47
-
Luke 12:5
-
Acts 2:27, 31
-
James 3:6
-
hades –
properly unseen, i.e. “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: -
grave, hell.
-
Found in Matthew
11:23 where Jesus was rebuking or giving a Woe to Unrepentant Cities
(what will become of them).
-
Luke 10:15 is used
the same way as Matthew 11:23
-
Revelation 1:18;
6:8; 20:13-14. This was very interesting.
-
tataroo
used in 2 Peter 2:4 (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in
eternal torment: cast down to hell.
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Hughes [mailto:gregh@bethanybeachcleaners.com]
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:16 PM
To:
Subject: RE: Hell
Hello All,
I’ll begin with the word Sheol {grave, pit
and hell}
Hebrew
שאול (shĕ'owl); here are
ALL of the verses
in the OT with this word; you will not read in any of these verses where
it says “Subterranean retreat” or “inmates”:
Lexicon Results for
shĕ'owl (Strong's H7585)
Hebrew for H7585
שאול
|
Transliteration
shĕ'owl |
Pronunciation
sheh·ole'
(Key) |
|
Part of Speech
feminine noun
|
Root Word (Etymology)
from
H7592 |
|
TWOT Reference
2303c |
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) sheol, underworld, grave,
hell, pit
a) the underworld
b) Sheol - the OT designation
for the abode of the dead
1) place of no return
2) without praise of God
3) wicked sent there for
punishment
4) righteous not abandoned to it
5) of the place of exile (fig)
6) of extreme degradation in
sin
Authorized Version (KJV)
Translation Count — Total: 65
AV —
grave 31,
hell 31,
pit 3
Gesenius's Lexicon (Help)
Concordance for shĕ'owl (KJV
Strong's H7585)
Displayed in KJV Text
Strong's Number
H7585 matches the Hebrew שאול (shĕ'owl)
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Gen 37:35
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And all his sons
01121 and all his daughters
01323 rose up
06965 to comfort
05162 him; but he refused
03985 to be comforted
05162 ; and he said
0559 , For I will go down
03381 into the grave
07585 unto my son
01121 mourning
057. Thus his father
01 wept
01058 for him.
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Gen 42:38
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And he said
0559 , My son
01121 shall not go down
03381 with you; for his brother
0251 is dead
04191 , and he is left
07604 alone: if mischief
0611 befall
07122 him by the way
01870 in the which ye go
03212 , then shall ye bring down
03381 my gray hairs
07872 with sorrow
03015 to the grave
07585.
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Gen 4:29 |
And if ye take
03947 this also from
05973 me
06440, and mischief
0611 befall him
07136 , ye shall bring down
03381 my gray hairs
07872 with sorrow
07451 to the grave
07585.
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Gen 44:31
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It shall come to pass, when he seeth
07200 that the lad
05288 [is] not [with us], that he will die
04191 : and thy servants
05650 shall bring down
03381 the gray hairs
07872 of thy servant
05650 our father
01 with sorrow
03015 to the grave
07585.
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Num 16:30
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But if the LORD
03068 make
01254 a new thing
01278, and the earth
0127 open
06475 her mouth
06310, and swallow them up
01104 , with all that [appertain] unto them, and they go down
03381 quick
02416 into the pit
07585; then ye shall
understand
03045 that these men
0582 have provoked
05006 the LORD
03068. |
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Num 16:33
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They, and all that [appertained] to them, went down
03381 alive
02416 into the pit
07585, and the earth
0776 closed
03680 upon them: and they perished
06 from among
08432 the congregation
06951. |
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Deu 32:22
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For a fire
0784 is kindled
06919 in mine anger
0639, and shall burn
03344 unto the lowest
08482 hell
07585, and shall
consume
0398 the earth
0776 with her increase
02981, and set on fire
03857 the foundations
04144 of the mountains
02022. |
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1Sa 2:6 |
The LORD
03068 killeth
04191 , and maketh alive
02421 : he bringeth down
03381 to the grave
07585, and bringeth
up
05927 .
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2Sa 22:6 |
The sorrows
02256 of hell
07585 compassed me
about
05437 ; the snares
04170 of death
04194 prevented
06923 me; |
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1Ki 2:6 |
Do
06213 therefore according to thy wisdom
02451, and let not his hoar head
07872 go down
03381 to the grave
07585 in peace
07965.
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1Ki 2:9
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Now therefore hold him not guiltless
05352 : for thou [art] a wise
02450 man
0376, and knowest
03045 what thou oughtest to do
06213 unto him; but his hoar head
07872 bring thou down
03381 to the grave
07585 with blood
01818. |
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Job 7:9 |
[As] the cloud
06051 is consumed
03615 and vanisheth away
03212 : so he that goeth down
03381 to the grave
07585 shall come up
05927 no [more].
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Job 11:8 |
[It is] as high
01363 as heaven
08064; what canst thou do
06466 ? deeper
06013 than hell
07585; what canst
thou know
03045 ?
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Job 14:13 |
O that
05414 thou wouldest hide
06845 me in the grave
07585, that thou
wouldest keep me secret
05641 , until thy wrath
0639 be past
07725 , that thou wouldest appoint
07896 me a set time
02706, and remember
02142 me!
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Job 17:13 |
If I wait
06960 , the grave
07585 [is] mine
house
01004: I have made
07502 my bed
03326 in the darkness
02822. |
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Job 17:16
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They shall go down
03381 to the bars
0905 of the pit
07585, when [our]
rest
05183 together
03162 [is] in the dust
06083. |
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Job 21:13
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They spend
03615
01086 their days
03117 in wealth
02896, and in a moment
07281 go down
02865
05181 to the grave
07585. |
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Job 24:19
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Drought
06723 and heat
02527 consume
01497 the snow
07950 waters
04325: [so doth] the grave
07585 [those which]
have sinned
02398 . |
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Job 26:6 |
Hell
07585 [is] naked
06174 before him, and destruction
011 hath no covering
03682.
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Psa 6:5 |
For in death
04194 [there is] no remembrance
02143 of thee: in the grave
07585 who shall give
thee thanks
03034 ? (KEY verse)
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Psa 9:17 |
The wicked
07563 shall be turned
07725 into hell
07585, [and] all the
nations
01471 that forget
07913 God
0430.
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Psa 16:10 |
For thou wilt not leave
05800 my soul
05315 in hell
07585; neither wilt
thou suffer
05414 thine Holy One
02623 to see
07200 corruption
07845.
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Psa 18:5 |
The sorrows
02256 of hell
07585 compassed me
about
05437 : the snares
04170 of death
04194 prevented
06923 me.
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Psa 30:3 |
O LORD
03068, thou hast brought up
05927 my soul
05315 from the grave
07585: thou hast
kept me alive
02421 , that I should not go down
03381
03381 to the pit
0953.
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Psa 31:17
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Let me not be ashamed
0954 , O LORD
03068; for I have called
07121 upon thee: let the wicked
07563 be ashamed
0954 , [and] let them be silent
01826 in the grave
07585.
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Psa 49:14 |
Like sheep
06629 they are laid
08371 in the grave
07585; death
04194 shall feed
07462 on them; and the upright
03477 shall have dominion
07287 over them in the morning
01242; and their beauty
06697
06736 shall consume
01086 in the grave
07585 from their
dwelling |
In conclusion: NONE of these verses (in context or out)
say anything about a “limbo”, “paradise”, “purgatory”, “awake”, “conscious”,
“torment”, “pain”, “burning”, etc... No, they talk about - “silent”, “no
remembrance” (or memory), “rest”, “my bed”, “peace.” You will also read
(shortly when I’ve got the time) the other two words for Hell (Gehenna and
Hades) will be exactly the same. Take all of these verses “in context” and
apply them to what I’m teaching in the “entire” Bible:
http://www.bethanybeachcleaners.com/allroadsleadtorome/new/what_is_hell.htm
and you will come to the same conclusion as to what Jesus meant when He said,
Lazarus is Sleeping = death (grave, hell and pit.) Think about this: Why would
Lazarus want to come back from Paradise to live more years in a dusty, dirty
place only to see his Savior crucified? That would be kind of mean of Jesus
unless Lazarus was unconscious, dead, sleeping….. and he could help further
glorify Him before His crucifixion. Again, Paradise is in Heaven, i.e. the New
Jerusalem where the tree of life abodes. The only one to go there (physically –
not just in the spirit; e.g., Paul and John) is Jesus Christ, i.e.,
Christ has "become the first-fruits
of them that are asleep" (v. 21). How could Lazarus go to Paradise (Heaven) BEFORE Jesus
if He was the “first-fruits” of them that are “asleep” i.e., Lazarus was asleep
before Jesus raised him from the grave?
More later,
Greg
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